But I also think that the pressure to produce and the pressure to produce large monumental-scale pieces, colossal pieceswhen everyone was around her saying, "Oh my gosh. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. No. So, she had me casting thousands of little pieces from these molds, these commercial molds that were given to her, and she spent all summer assembling them into overall images and they looked likeI don't know. All information including race fields and TAB numbers should be checked with an official source. And I remember the first few years I was saying, "All right, I just want them to seem alive and interesting. MIJA RIEDEL: So when did you graduate high school? And he had a really interesting background himself,, being an architect historian, ceramic historian, writer, and friends with the people he knew. I used to love the little Scottsdale Museum Fairthat was nice for me, made it into a vacation. 0000112404 00000 n So we sat for a moment, and it was like, I didn't know what to say, and then he just looked at me andhe was very peaceful man. If you feel your faith diminishing, pray more sincerely and more frequently, he said. He was opening a gallery, I love your work, I'd like to get some pieces. Neil Williamsalways brought light to every room entered. MIJA RIEDEL: And was this was when you were already working as her assistant? 1 because I know that when I do that, everything else works out.. Usually based on a strong black-and-white pattern, or black, gray and white, with larger color planes enhancing, or playing off of that established black-and-white pattern. NEIL WILLIAMS: They becameno, they were in sections. NEIL WILLIAMS: Remember him? And she jumped, back and forth, which you may or may not see in her work, but there wasin fact, working for her early on, it was so funny, she was very excitedshe was getting very excited, because so much beautiful work was coming out, she was starting to come out again, not out of the closet, but of out of the backyard. You part with friendships of 30 years because there's no other options, whatever. There's a certain clarity that happens, or a certain subtle little discovery that seems to make a difference. Daily Racing Multiple. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, and when you need it, like Duchamp said, if art is a drug and you need your fix, NEIL WILLIAMS: I mean, Van Gogh said that, art is a jealous mistress; she doesshe prefers herself to ill health or anything else. I understand now I didn't have much exposure to it, but even looking and taking art history courses at that time, it was unusual. And then she gave them to L.A. County and Scripps and Otis, and that's how they ended up in some of those, MIJA RIEDEL: Then you showed with her very early on in the mid-80s, early '80s, couple years. NEIL WILLIAMS: Andalways incredible number one supportive of. I would say, "Yeah, all right Viola. He says that, "Volume has gone to her paintings, and the plates were the bridge." WebNeil Williams Cyber Security Expert for Lawyers & Professional Service Companies. Gosh. MIJA RIEDEL: Are there any critics or writers that have been significant to you, you've learned from or appreciated or. But he says, "Find that one small thing to look forward to every day." Where are we going?" BYU student Micah Johnson told of an analogy he learned that likened going to church and sharing testimony and truth with others to the coals within a fire. NEIL WILLIAMS: And she thought that was a great way to start unlocking and getting thethose agents that are bound up in a creative psyche or in an emotional, personaldam, or whatever was locked up. NEIL WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. Victor Building She was reallybutand Viola was the superstar of her gallery. MIJA RIEDEL: Socialite or socialist, or both? Have your sources of inspiration changed over time. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. MIJA RIEDEL: and yours have a little bit of that sensibility. Cultures, it's cultural identity and it's human history. MIJA RIEDEL: making things happen that wouldn't happen elsewhere. MIJA RIEDEL: What do you see as the similarities and the differences between your earliest work and your current work? I never saw a sign of that. Cookies are small text files that can be used by websites to make a user's experience more efficient. MIJA RIEDEL: And would she workyou said she'd work on multiple pieces at once, correct? And then certainly now working, knowing people like Sam Tubiolo more, working with his project, this Los Alamos mural project with him, it'sI mean, I'm loving that. But not to be too simplistic. MIJA RIEDEL: Well, they could be. NEIL WILLIAMS: Travelyeah, so I love to go to museums, I love to do that. Berkley? Clay people were always very positive and helpful of each other, and loved looking at each other's work. NEIL WILLIAMS: Because they wereat the time, they were smaller, NEIL WILLIAMS: They were just big enough, but they were alsothey had thissense about them that obviously somebody was very tied, emotionally, to this image. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: So there is some childhood playfulness aspect of it, which I think is okay, as long as it's not too light, and as long as it doesn't diminish, I think the effort, or that it's been a life-long body of work. Well, started off with stencils and brush, and then it went to some of the molds and even some thick-lined Egyptian paste she would make, which would melt and fuse onto it. Prayer is vital to faith in Jesus Christ. And, she just helped with the cups. We had to read everything from Van Gogh's letters to Theo to Shgun to Invisible Man from Emerson [Ralph Ellison] toI mean there was a wonderful poetry series that Michael McClure at Arts and Crafts sponsored one of the Beat Generation guys. NEIL WILLIAMS: No, I've been really lucky. NEIL WILLIAMS: Ijust looking back when you were asking questions about my past and stuff, I don't think about that much. And the tragedies arewe all have tragedies. This information is provided for entertainment purposes only. And ultimately, she would do what she was going to do. It wasnt until he left school that he ever thought of riding as a career. . Located in the Donald W. Reynolds Center for American Art and Portraiture (8th and F Streets NW), Size: 5 sound files (4 hr., 9 min. MIJA RIEDEL: I thought you had said otherwise yesterday, but okay. So she got the the words and thedescriptors with it. i backed 3 winners in a row and realised that Williams was on them all. Is there any relationship between your production work and your one-of-a-kind pieces? I mean they're. NEIL WILLIAMS: He did a littlemost of her reading for her, I'm certain. I meanin certain ways, I mean [Laughs.] And she bought most of them and took them home with her. And then did you go on for masters work as well? [Affirmative.] Or I gothere's a certain health and comfort and a revitalization of my energy knowing thatI'm doing the right thing for myself and my work and everything's going to okay, as long as I don't stress too much about it. MIJA RIEDEL: Listening to [. NEIL WILLIAMS: I like that; we got a kick out of that. Brown, oldyou know, '60s work. NEIL WILLIAMS: And he's always been reallyhe's always been there. And she said, "I was all prepared to be depressed, and you know what we did with depressionmilk if for all its worth." Berkeley, and I knew his figure work from around the Diebenkorn years and all. NEIL WILLIAMS: And expanded when she moved her studio down to Eighth Street [ph] to larger electric kilns with whole series with hydraulic hoists and rolling kiln floors and anything to try and get some of the stress off of me and, NEIL WILLIAMS: make her work more fluid, because I knew that there was a finite time that I could have. And, also, I've spent a lot of time, a long time doing plates. And it was also, like I was trying to get at filling theimage filling the gap between the thought and the spoken word. And one of the reasons that was happening is because I could handle the disassemble. It was a little vanity gallery and. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And also the palliative qualities of color context, andit was all very fascinating to me. "Mike Etheridge - Associate Creative DirectorBreakthrough Media, "Neil Williams is a talented Head of Copy. I think she had two full-time and another part-time at the same time afterwards, so, NEIL WILLIAMS: It was I was really proud because I had felt really honored to be able to work with her. He was very interested in the music and the arts. Rena was very, very patient with Viola, and very, very patient with making sure that she got connected to other peoplethe proper representation in New York. Your childhood friend, finding him face down in his living room. What do they want to do? But, so as far as fitting into the bigger picture of the art world, the American art market, American art world, I justit's pretty simple. . Was there a syllabus of any sort? NEIL WILLIAMS: [Laughs.] So, again, I think they were in the column reference to give a point of context so they weren't just completely, purely abstracted non-objective shapes. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. Good teapots and good cup images are perfectly legitimate. NEIL WILLIAMS: Not so much. This site is maintained by Racing and Sports Pty Ltd (ABN 093 360 108) ("R&S"). She liked being around the school. MIJA RIEDEL: I've heard people say that there was a deep love between them, a deep respect. Yeah. So, I don't really think about, like, proper gallery representation or anything like that anymore. It's all very personal, it's all about the instructor. MIJA RIEDEL: I'm thinking about the difference between going to the studio to make your own work and, NEIL WILLIAMS: I've done a lot of work on the class, NEIL WILLIAMS: but as far as, some of them, MIJA RIEDEL: How does that affect the process? While many people do not always speak openly of their faith in God, they very naturally believe in God, and in times of crisis, their prayers and hopes ascend to God, Elder Andersen said. MIJA RIEDEL: What kinds of storieswere they related to politics, or gender, or social issues, personal narratives? There's a directness, a quickness to it. [Affirmative.] And it doesn't bother me. So, there is awhat we talked about earlier, that good art should ask more answersmight ask more questions than it answers. 0000008348 00000 n MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. But that wasn't my interest. And, even though there were gaps in her thought processes, like there are in all of our lives, in all of our dialogues, you could tell there was a depth of thought there. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. We can send them to wherever school. . I mean, go figure that. I was content to just whoever connected with it, whoever wanted to rep it, wasRena was amazingly helpful. Nothing. It washaving an arsenal, collecting an arsenal of weaponry. Special ed kid, had trouble reading and writing. 0000003077 00000 n NEIL WILLIAMS: I'm sure she did. We've talked about the five year, MIJA RIEDEL:steps forward, or focus on front, or backs. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, writers, you know, all kinds of writers, yeah. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, in the last ten years that I was a student, who's apparently just took a liking to me and wanted to stay in touch and he calls me all the time to check in, and he said, "I pray for you every day, Neil." I like that. NEIL WILLIAMS: And, when he was on his deathbed years ago, I was fortunate enough to go and be able to take, help care for him for a couple of months. The Savior said that His Father maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust (Matthew 9:45). NEIL WILLIAMS: They bring a, "Oh my God, what have I done?". NEIL WILLIAMS: Some functional, sculptural. Cutting can disintegrate. NEIL WILLIAMS: from Arts and Crafts, art school days, I gravitated back here. MIJA RIEDEL: Now would you take chainsaw, as well, or whatever the saw was that Sam was describing and cut them up that way? I'll remember. I mean, Betty Asher was wonderful, of course, the matriarch of west coast art, and Rena kept an eye on me and was always very generous and very helpful, especially if I needed to reach out and, "Rena, I have a few new pieces I would like to be able to get some more materials," and she would buy them and resell them. In their scalein terms of their scale alone, yeah. NEIL WILLIAMS: You mean, besides all the wonderful crazy friends I grew up with? But he even came across the sculptures of Dr. Fox, which are laughable, but they're amusing. Some cookies are placed by third party services that appear on our pages. MIJA RIEDEL: I have to leave that for a heartbeat. Beautiful form. Net Worth in 2020. NEIL WILLIAMS: she found it there because of her estrangement from her own family I'm sure contributed to that, unfortunately. MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. I thought it started with the grandfather. Is there any tradition involved in bolstering the success of that intent? And he Fed Exes a check for 10 grand overnight to me and scribbles on the back of the envelope, "Make me something beautiful when you get time." He was extremely difficult. This information is provided for entertainment purposes only. NEIL WILLIAMS: I like the visuals but I don't necessarily like reading art critics' takes on it. The following oral history transcript is the result of a recorded interview with Neil Williams on 2014 June 5-6. And it changed their lives. NEIL WILLIAMS: I alwayscertainly positive energy. But there was maybe 800 people there, students there, and they were from everywhere. NEIL WILLIAMS: and activating the surface. And I think it was alsoI also know that she had to delight in the fact that she was a little, short woman who was able to do that, and then splash all these great color field, you know, bring it to life with color, and still, at the time, outwork anybody around her. [END OF TRACK william14_2of3_sd_track02. . NEIL WILLIAMS: So we fired all the kilnsI fired all the kilns in the summers, they were gas kilns. I don't know how to describe it. He says, "No, I'll show you when I get back." NEIL WILLIAMS: So, I mentioned some artists that I was still in touch with. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, there you go. MIJA RIEDEL: And you were married 10 years ago roughly? This site is maintained by Racing and Sports Pty Ltd (ABN 093 360 108) ("R&S"). Somewhere at the first day of Arts and Crafts, or the first week of Arts and Crafts. [Laughs.] ", [END OF TRACK william14_2of3_sd_track01.]. NEIL WILLIAMS: And that makes sense to me, too. NEIL WILLIAMS: You know, because they'rewe all perceive the same object differently, and you can put a stone in the center of a dozen people, like Native Americans talk about and they will all see that stone differently. A Professional theme for architects, construction and interior designers This website contains horse racing systems, staking plans and many articles about Australian horse racing of interest to gamblers Did you need a portfolio back then, or no? NEIL WILLIAMS: Him and his friend Nick Bishop, in a drunken stupor one night, conceived of them as the new county administration offices, because they needed new ones and they were completely inexpensive to build. 0000001196 00000 n Okay. Was she making them as whole figures? NEIL WILLIAMS: I haven't doubted it since, but I've had moments of, you know, 'what the hell am I doing,' but at the same time I've always known that's what I was going to do. NEIL WILLIAMS: I certainly could find that for you and supplement, but I do notI. NEIL WILLIAMS: I still am physically, but back then, she got an incredible amount of physical labor out of me, and it worked really well for her, because I was learning so much. NEIL WILLIAMS: And there also reached the point where Lee was saying, "You know, Elmer, these new paintings areas long as Elmer loves them." So, he was very involved with the light railway station down there, and he alsothere's a series of domes, a cluster of domes over here that were built, NEIL WILLIAMS: some time ago, over. [Affirmative. And, she wasvoracious. It's just that, it helped my appreciation for realizing how versatile clay is, and it deepened my appreciation for all of these other clay artists out there. But they clustered them, so they morphed together and they were honeycombed together, in multiple, NEIL WILLIAMS: In Auburn, yeah. MIJA RIEDEL: Would you like to say anything else? MIJA RIEDEL: And I'm curious, when you say "spiritually, it fulfilled self-respect." NEIL WILLIAMS: Although they were pastel until fired, there's a certain projection you had to do and prediction. This transcript is open for research. Neil Williams Obituary: In the loving memory of Neil Williams, we are saddened to inform you that Neil Williams, a beloved and loyal friend, has passed away. Like, "Viola, it's really great, it's really beautiful, but if you did this, we'd save me a couple hours of work here." Under Review. And at the same time, we look at so many great artists, and they wereit wastheir big contribution was absolutely they were on the edge. However, that experience also helped her better understand the Saviors Atonement. University systems, they certainly have their place. You know, "What do you think?" MIJA RIEDEL: And it was always clearly clay? There is a memorial at Caulfield that lists the names of 873 Australian Is the material the most appropriate used to articulate that intent? That's got to be true. NEIL WILLIAMS: I'm feeling much better, thank you. Some of the last charcoal drawings I thought were justoh my God. It could work with you or you could work against it. Even though they were colorful and they were kind of drawn and animated and doll-like. I think that's actually an interesting [aspect of MR] a working relationship. [Affirmative.] NEIL WILLIAMS: Yes, I went down there and my brother was living in Berkley. NEIL WILLIAMS: The flow, and if she had a group of figures, say she would make a dozen figures in a year, she would be building, say, a pair of them. But, no, I remember mentioning something about that at one of Charles' services aboutmemorial services about wanting to thank him forI understand he's one ofhe's the one who encouraged Peter Voulkos to hand build. And Viola finally just said, "Let's play with clay", MIJA RIEDEL: and took out the clay, and they all just sat there at the kitchen table, MIJA RIEDEL: working with clay. NEIL WILLIAMS: If you like the attention, if you like the advantages, great, but if it's at the cost of your life, or if it's at the cost of your work going soft or losing its edge, I mean all artists have ebbs and flows, right? NEIL WILLIAMS: We had a hand saw, we didn'twe weren't as upwardly mobile as they became. MIJA RIEDEL: Had you see Paulus Berensohn's book Finding One's Way with Clay? [Laughs.] MIJA RIEDEL: Is it a particular kind of clay body that you've. MIJA RIEDEL: Different people have described that relationship in different ways. And so. She was a member of the Sacramento Symphony. He was one of the many riders who take their worst tumble after they hang up the saddle. Rising weight means most male jockeys have to waste around the time they end their apprenticeships and lose their appeal to trainers. The biggest of them exist on starvation diets that seem to shrivel brains, as well as bodies. I also think the simplicity of being able to do that because I know they were so physically demanding. Remember, there is a power that can cause those things to happen that need to happen, and that power comes from your faith in Jesus Christ., As an Apostle of the Lord, Elder Andersen blessed students to feel the Saviors hands reaching out as they reach out to Him. NEIL WILLIAMS: Hand-built, but some great conceptual work, I mean just really enlightened, brilliant ladies. Does it bringhave their been unexpected. He says, "It's going to work.". NEIL WILLIAMS: And that's why I think thatCharles' point, when he was talking about her being a cottage artist, and not a big palace artist, where there's awhole dedication ceremony that goes along with it publicly. And, it just seems different, and you're laboring away at a sculpture or a painting. Racing and Sports is a Registered Trademark. If my work can do that, that's all I could hope for. Many around Yosemite, too, over the years. I'm sure it wasshe wasand also howshe had ayou know, as amazing as she was, prolific, and as tough as she was, out-producing any other Bay Area artists two to one even the macho guysshe had a real soft, fragile side. NEIL WILLIAMS: He said it was hysterical. And the later ones, yeahthe animated ones, where she was taking molds and recreating the dog's face or a still life. I mean, it would have been great, but it's not important to me. And so he had discipline of throwing and formulating on clay and materials; glazes and firing wood kilns and things that I was really fascinated with when I was young, because it was a great introduction to realizing how many different hatsI mean you have to be a chemist. MIJA RIEDEL: Now which two are you talking about? It's like if you can get someone to stop, look at your work for more than 30 seconds, it's going to be successful. 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